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Comedian Pete Holmes interviewed hipster Christian author Rob Bell — while surfing — for his new late-night show. The clip is mostly lackluster, but it’s not often you hear someone ask a Christian pastor to do shrooms with him or try to recreate the gag-inducing “Footprints” poem.

Rob Bell (left) listens to a question from comedian Pete Holmes

The highlight, though, is when Holmes asks Bell at the 0:47 mark: “Do you think Jesus ever surfed or was definitely a real person?”
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Hemant Mehta is the founder of FriendlyAtheist.com, a YouTube creator, podcast co-host, and author of multiple books about atheism. He can be reached at @HemantMehta.