In this week’s episode of Pinn Drop, Anthony Pinn talks to Nadya Dutchin, executive director of the American Humanist Association, about a movement in need of new direction, the rise of young leaders, and the one priority of the moment that rises above all others.

On pressing the humanist movement’s old guard to embrace change

“One of the most important things I’ve learned is when to walk away. And that ain’t easy. You can press the sale so many times, but at some point, you have to be like, You know what? This opportunity cost is not worth it.”

On the role of humanism in social progress

“I think we’ve come to the clear end of to me what is just unfettered capitalism, you know, that is just greedy, rapacious. It is unyielding, unwieldy, unseemly, unkind. People are tired of it. And in this moment, I think humanism is the place where we can stand in that, literally looking to alleviate the suffering of people.”

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Anthony Pinn

Anthony Pinn is one of the foremost scholars of African American humanism, author of more than 20 books, and the Agnes Cullen Arnold Professor of Humanities and Professor of Religious Studies at Rice University.